Make college students take (real) history | Fox News

Several years ago I gave a lecture at the University of Washington on the situation of women in ancient Rome. Afterwards, two co-eds asked me about the Roman Empire. Where and when was it, they wanted to know.

Thinking this was some sort of tease, I told them it ruled Southern California in the 1920s. I was stunned when they began to write that down.

So, after I explained about Rome, I quizzed them further, to test what they did know about history.

Not much, it turns out.

via Make college students take (real) history | Fox News.

How about maybe we have a couple semesters in high school, too? It would be kinda nice if a high school graduate, after a history course on World War II, knew more than the Tuskegee Airmen, and Rosie the Riveter.



12 responses to “Make college students take (real) history | Fox News

  1. History does not Favor Socialism. So Why Teach it?


  2. David Navarre

    For the last several decades, they’re been adding so many details highlighting the roles of specific groups that the general course of history is only mentioned in passing.


  3. SFC Dunlap 173d RVN

    You mean their learned history does include the Tuskegee Airmen and Rosie the Riveter?? I’m surprised.


    • someoldguy

      Not mention the role of women and black men in an anti-fascist war in which we were allied with a communist nation? Of course they include that. But this by no means diminishes the mostly unsung role of black men and the often underappreciated role of women as well as the tremendous sacrifices of the Russian people in defeating a genuinely evil enemy.


  4. someoldguy

    Way back when I went to school (*), history and other social studies were heavily emphasized. But so were math, science, English, a foreign language and such prerequisites as actually coming to school, doing homework, passing tests etc.

    * OK, back then the Flood was covered in current events. :-)


  5. Asking questions are in fact pleasant thing if you are not understanding something totally, but this article provides fastidious understanding


  6. Stark appears to have a problem or two himself. Alas, those problems are common place among supposed collegiate intellectuals.

    I agree with the thrust of his column, however.


  7. A friend of mine used to work in the admissions office of a mid-western nursing college. Part of his job was to give the opening speech to the nursing students wherein he explained the basics of the college and various things – one of them being the college disciplinary process.

    Once (and only once!) he made a offhand comment about how you should not do something or you would get put on “double-secret probation”.

    He was stunned when most of the students were taking notes!!

    The only person that laughed was an older student in the back of the room.

    He learned not to include such cultural references in future speeches as they just went over the heads of the students and they did not get them.


  8. SFC Dunlap 173d RVN

    “Someoldguy” my comment was meant to be tongue in cheek. You and I grew up in the same education system time wise. Our language options were four: French, Spanish, German, and Latin. My awareness of the degrading of education was borne out of simply watching ‘ole Jay Lenno’s “Jaywalking” installments on The Tonight Show. That’s when I became afraid…good luck with the world millenials, remember the world doesn’t think as you do and that is the fly in the ointment.


    • someoldguy

      The first sentence of my reply was also tongue in cheek. But I could not resist the lead in. Then I got serious lest people take ME wrong.

      Speaking of taking people seriously as well as knowing history, the article author Rodney Stark must be taken with a few pinches of salt. Much of what he says is accurate, some is not, e.g. his assertion that Muslims had nothing to do with the intellectual advances of the Abbasid Caliphate in the early Middle Ages. And his story about the two co-eds seems just a little too pat for comfort. Anyone with a TV knows more than that about Rome.